Peace out. TRUTH IS, Bajans and Trinis are not going to let up, so its up to you Jamaica to make your formal statement. No. We want to hear from you! Xavier: Wow. Ill introduce it to other Jamaicans and well have a blast just moving around. Whats the attraction or place that if I come to Ghana, I should visit? For the east indian nations It is notRead more . I had an Acadian mother and believe me, her French-Canadian behaviour was seen as very aggressive over in English Canada. But no. You have judged Jamaican culture through what I assume is American lenses, but our culture is much richer and much deeper than your surface-deep analogy. Clothes, looks, being right, what they have or can do with a lack of intrinsic worth and emotional understanding. Jamaicans believe these lizards will stick to your skin leaving a pattern once they are pulled off. So, if it means that you have to hide the truth to maintain peace or to not ruffle feelings, then people will hide the truth and they dont consider it lying. It depends on your experience and identity. Maybe thats the Jamaicans you attracted and the circles you moved in. Ruth: Wheel and come again. Before you pop off and take egoistic for completely bad or your own definition we are all egoistic its part of our survival nature. Xavier: Well, thank you and blessings to you and your family and to all the Jamaicans there in Ghana. Kirk Campbell, i dont know if youre a jamaican but Im one, and we are a very aggressive people, yes, aggressive. Mi seh, No, bwoy mi book already yuh know. We know how to party until the sun comes up and can just as easily relax at home and sleep through the Sunday rainfall. What can you accomplish by not having a conversation that might solve problems? , Sambusak in My Pak (@MoriRebel) March 8, 2020. Unfortunately, when honesty meets the innate expressiveness of patois, people (mis)interpret it for unkindness. This is the number one reason Jamaicans gave for why so many people think were downright mean. Come again. 93Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland. The short answer is NO, it's not hard at all. So yes, weve done both. But both of them caught my vibe. We are forward and direct. I think its beautiful to watch that. As you clearly have nothing meaningful to say, you have been blocked from further correspondence. We are very loving though. Ruth: So, I hooked up with a Ghanaian at university in the US, and we got married, in Jamaica. So I like it with peanut soup, with groundnut soup. Ghana is rather homogenous. America and Canada are a different story. Just try not to catch us on a bad day, eh? Is a stew that they call Contumre or Palaver Sauce, which is actually dasheen leaves, cooked down with a smokey fish, cooked with Palm oil and wi (we) eat it with green, boiled green plantain, like how Jamaicans eat boil green bananas? Their daily occurrences that remind you of how old this civilization is. That would be you, darling. Im looking forward to, as you said, to wheel and come again.. They can be very mean. Ruth: Kakum Park. Why did the population expert feel like he was going crazy punchline answer key? Reprisal killings make up a significant portion of our murder rate in Jamaica. But dont sort of show up here and fire away, brap! We wont even get into the comments made when we chose not to support that Shacari girl after she disrespected one of our Jamaican athletes. Jamaicans hate utility bills especially for water and light (electricity). And really people do believe, for everything there is a season. Its almost biblical. I cannot come). And I think that thats why we have this whole salt fish story going on. They deserve love just like anyone else but you have to take care of yourself too. Ghana is not going to be delivered to you on a plate like that. Bob said "the truth is an offense, but never a sin". You are correct that there is a lot of pride in our culture, which is why the lion is such a big symbol in Jamaica. Getty Images. Ruth: But in terms of those wow Jamaica moment, yuh (you) get the Usain Bolt, yuh (you) get the Reggae. And I think you kind of got into that. Im not the one on someone elses website wailing and complaining. So Ruth, how are you? Copyright Simbis Inc.All rights reserved.Privacy Policy & Terms of use. I am sorry that that has been your experience with Jamaicans, but I cannot say the same as someone born and raised in the country and who has lived in two other countries since then. And we appreciate you spending the time. The rest is history. Remember, the Irish suffer the same fate despite being quite northern themselves. So, thats a very hard thing for foreigners to get used to it. You know, when you hear about a country, thats steeped in tradition, until you live that tradition, you dont really know what thats steeped in tradition means. I would tell you the truth straight up. I wouldnt say that, its not that I dont like it, but its harder to get used to. Xavier: You know, I saw you when I got there. But Ghana feels like home in a different way. For one, they are both extremely proud and passionate peoples, which can sometimes lead to conflict. Ruth: Yes. But I know that for me, this is home and to our kids, for them, this is home. It was very enlightening. But to others, it isn't. They claim Jamaica also, obviously. Theres something very impressive about seeing history or seeing things that represent centuries around you, and in Ghana you see that in people. Remember to share this article on Facebook and other Social Media Platforms. THE TRUTH IS, we were taught to hate JAMAICANS. WebResearch like this is essential to understanding why that is, and how to change it. Xavier: The canopies that you go up on the trees, but the best part for me was just listening and just watching the people and it was just amazing to me. Alexis Chateau sometimes includes affiliate product links and ads in the content provided. I don't think we're mean, but we're very direct for sure. The culture doesnt define everyone there but can be found in many. We are not a racist society, but a classist one. I guess home is where the family is too. Unauthorized use and/or duplication of this material without express and written permission from this sites author and/or owner is strictly prohibited. Although in Jamaica sexual boundaries are rigidly and violently monitored, we integrate readily and easily with different ethnicities, political views and national boundaries. WebBecause of so many hatings going on online from Ghanians towards Nigerians, when ever it comes to me or any of my friends wanting to employ african apart from Nigerians, for I wont. You know, when you enter a room, you have to greet people in a certain direction. Ruth: Yes. EpicJamaica (@epicjamaica) March 8, 2020, Alexis Chateau (@alexischateau_) March 8, 2020, This is one of the big reasons I'm leaving the Southeast. There is also a what many call today toxic maculinity part of the culture. If you catch us on a bad day, well I already warned you about our bad days. But I would always get, You dont look Jamaican, because they assume that everybodys darker-skinned. A means set to keep Africans apart in the diaspora. We're not mean. But Really Though? On Tuesday, the health ministry signed an agreement to introduce an electronic health records system that has long been touted, TRUTH IS, Bajans and Trinis are not going to let up, so its up to you Jama. But as we all know it is not applicable to every Ghanaian. But there's plenty of "traditionally" nice Jamaicans though lol, Ni-Ko-lis We-li-yams, MBA (@InTheNickATime) March 8, 2020. What do you like most about Ghana? Copyright Simbis Inc.All rights reserved. Mi nuh (I dont) get there yet. Seek peace. So, in terms of attractions, come and see a market come and be in a market. Were assholes when were mad. Total BS headline. It was the African Americans. In our Jamaicans to the World series, Jamaicans.com founder Xavier Murphy speaks with Ruth Kwakwa, a Jamaican living in Ghana. All rights reserved. Lets say youre walking through Spain and you seeing these historic buildings. WebMost Jamaicans are of predominant African heritage, especially Western Africa. Soon enough, someone asks the question, Why are Jamaicans so mean? In fact, not only is this the search query that brings a lot of people to my blog, but its also a question I get asked often. Keep your fake smiles. They eat boiled green plantains here. i have a lot of Jamaicans friends and i give all the respect drew to them god bless all my springfield Jamaican. Ironically cutting lines is one of the things we Jamaicans hate. Here are our picks for the top 5 things Jamaicans hate. So if you are going to be lying down on a beach in a swimsuit, you will find people coming home from a funeral, staring at you, kind of thinking, what are you doing? So they dont tend to display their body, to design clothing, to display their body like that. So, you know, I dont know what my experience would have been like as an outright expat, I dont know. If you have Jamaicans in your life, cherish them. The two cents that I'd add is that we aren't necessarily mean but rather we were raised to be thick skinned and outspoken. Haha.I would say direct & passionate instead. We are blunt and joke a lot. They just dont understand why the truth seems a bit delayed or seems a bit colored. Xavier: You need to visit. Youll miss how powerful women are because women run the markets, thats their business, and you can be a millionaire on the market. We will find that. At the heart of all this is that some cultures and the specific people within them perceive Jamaican cultural cues as too aggressive because of the lenses they look through. You know, I think at some point we will were going to dig deep enough to find it. Ruth: Yes. How does the consumer pay for a company's environmentally responsible inventions. / Largest Collection Of Vintage Igbo Images [Blog], Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10). You will hear Jamaicans who arent married to Ghanaians or who arent, who havent been there for a long time missing that a lot. 10 Singers and Rappers You May Not Know Were of Jamaican, Ann-Marie Campbell, Named to Head Home Depot 5 Things You Dont Know About Jamaican Rice and Peas, 15 Things Jamaicans Find Odd When they Moved to the USA. Jamaican English tends to follow British I tore up like a baby. The whole concept of an interracial country, like Jamaican where were predominantly black, but every now and then you see a hint of this and a hint of that. When broken down into the sampling group, 61 per Ive had to explain to a Scottish-Canadian that Im only joking with my abusive humour. The gecko known as the croaking lizard (they make croaking sounds) in Jamaica is the most feared lizard. Then we get to the attitude of being tough. Again ot all are like this of course, but its a trend. Theyll tell you you cant take critisim and a second later youll give constructive critisim and theyll get defensive then turn it around on you and attack. If Ghana develops, its for all Ghanaians and if the country goes down on its knees because of corruption and inefficiency it will affect everyone too. But yes, theres a good and bad side to everything. But the way we flavor it with salt fish is a way they flavor the majority of Ghanaian dishes are flavored with some form of smoked fish that is cut up just the same way wed cut up salt fish. Ruth: There you go. but all the island peoples are family. Your religion, your language all of that can go. Ruth: And you very much see that here. If you think a Jamaican is being mean thats probably because we thought the same of you and decided to show you whatmean really is. So theres a whole old school, what we consider to be an old school conversation around that. they would understand why we feel less inclined to meet their own cultural standards. We lived there for a total of three plus seven, about 10 years, I guess. Ghanaians-. Okay. Jamaica is the opposite. Have you ever seen two Germans having an exciting conversation before? Send the mad and aggressive slaves to Jamaica. Not sensuous, sensual? That one is big. Listen, how I see is it that Jamaica has its own culture just as any culture mixed from its traditions environment and a fingerprint of factors. But theyre Ghanaian kids with international attachments. We're just blunt and straightforward AF and we don't take no shit from nobody. Jamaicans are notorious for finding ways to get to the front of long lines. Can't stand foolishness and will call it out. That my passport is expired. WebThis decision has generated more poverty for the people because while salary remains stagnant, transportation and cost of food has jumped up badly. Do Somalis,ethiopians And Eritreans Consider Themselves As Whites? Xavier: -its just totally. Your experiences are yours and your observations are your own. If you hear people laughing, speaking in a way that youre familiar with, or that resonates with your soul. Parents dont send their children to school. I think the experience in Ghana is much more Which one is it? Xavier: Theres nothing else. So Nigerians and Ghanaians in temperament tend to be very different that way. Every time a Southerner gives me this as their reason for why the South East is a great place to live, I burst their bubble by telling them that this is precisely what I hate about it and why I dont trust them. In most countries gecko lizards are viewed as harmless creatures that do not attack and in some cases kept as pets. Much of the hype of hatred of any form is Ruth: But yes. Some of the stuff youre saying, youre not getting a lot of the stereotypical, Id say. Watching people dodging rain drops in Jamaica is like watching Neo in the movie the Matrix dodging bullets. Ruth: Theres a time. MOST racist people do not know that they are racists but simply just think and find a reason to dislike. We will brag about cutting lines while others waited hours. We accept it! All the best. So, you can decide, which is the right pronunciation, but its more people calling it, plantain and plantain. It is not just Jamaican women who fear croaking lizards but Jamaican men will find excuses to leave a room with one. Mi (I) nuh (no) can tell everybody say di (the) person died? No, actually you cant. We really do. If youve never seen jokes about this in pop culture before, Ill start you off with this video. Most of us speak patois, which is an aggressive language, like German. The irony of this is that, we are always the first to cite the iniquities of others and their countries without a room for us to accept our own. I keep telling you, Matt. So anyway, so it is at a different level, but its hard to describe unless you see it and live it. I just want to know which primary school in Barbados you attended because I went through primary AND secondary school in Barbados and never have I been taught that the slaves who didnt listen were shipped to Jamaica. Then as time passed and you start to see clearer, meet people and question things, you soon realize that the insurgent slaves were the brave ones. And here in Ghana, its like everything is linked to some tradition. Xavier: Wow! So, its hierarchical in terms of tradition, in terms of gender, in terms of age. There were the men and women who remembered their rich past and knew of their dark future away from their homes. This is rapidly changing, but not fast enough. And just seeing people stand up with their hands a kimbo, it just felt familiar. , Alexis Chateau (@alexischateau_) March 7, 2020, Moved from Jamaica to NYC so ppl would say I'm mean I can be very mean but that also depends on you, so just move outta my way n don't come to me with nonsense, VanillaBeans (@TiinaBeans) March 8, 2020. Thats all. Thats, thats it. Ghanaians are realizing that times are changing, but people are still trying to figure out how to navigate, how to maintain the culture, even with social media, which is dismantling Ageism, for example, or tradition. More propaganda, thats all.kmt. There is also an attitude of being a bad man or bad gyal. I wasnt romanticizing about it. Be careful. And inevitably, they had met Jamaicans and whatever, but tradition got in the way of anything ever evolving because of their traditional gender roles. Not having enough gravy on food is an insult to a Jamaican. that the other party is racist, and perhaps cultural I think youve covered it all. We absolutely hate when you meet us for the first time, and five seconds into learning were Jamaican, youre trying to sound like us and talking about Jamaican mon and Bob Marley. On a good day and if youre a tourist, we might let this slide. Thank you very much. You show them your strength in the face of all odds being stacked high against you. You know, the proverb that came to mind was, children to speak when theyre spoken to. Thats the first proverb that came to mind when you kind of said that. The softer spoken ones seem less of this. Pure rubbish!!!! But, I can definitely see how the French can be more passionate then the northerners are used to. Xavier: Wow. So yes. They praise our customer service and wish they could learn to live at our more laidback pace. Ruth: Yes. Maybe you should, but half the time were just playing around. Whatsapp. Hes Ghanaian, so just like me, he spent all his schooling years in Ghana, and then went to the US to University. And it, I mean-. I miss the beach and it sounds weird because were on a coast here, but our beaches are different and there isnt a beach culture here. Ruth: They dont eat boiled green bananas here. It's not mean it's just that we have no time to pamper and sugar coat to save people's feelings. You have to be mean to make them know you not too too nice so they won't tek liberty. But if your parents always told you that you have to chew your food and that you must swallow chewing gum, its a very hard concept to get with. And I think that thats what really felt good. Oh okay. And you think, you interpret commit commitment to it. WebHaitians and Jamaicans, just like many other immigrants groups in the U.S, have tension because they see each other as competition. It is an offense that can start an angry mob. Making purchases via these links result in a small reward for us at no extra cost to you. The sense of humor is different, but its still very I think whats common to both countries, is that sense of humanity, where people are a bit more forgiving of each other and, yes, warmer and fuzzier. They might tell someone their question is dumb but go on to ask an even dumber question but dont dare try to tell them theirs was dumb. Number one place that you must visit? How Jamaican Men Say Thank You to another Jamaican How Jamaicans Greet You When They Have Not Seen You 20 English Words That Sound Better In Jamaican Patois. I strongly believe there are 3 sides to every story. Xavier: And you may not have many of them. treat them with disdain. And you do have to watch yourself quite a bit. She came to vent and be offensive, so who can say what her actual thoughts are? Who the first time Audley came, I ah she (a said), come, yuh (you) have to go to a market. I mean, it was just amazing. Xavier: Good. It was too short of a time. My mother always says when we keep having negative experiences in life, we should consider that were the common denominator and then examine why that is. Now, Jamaica tek (take) dancing to another level, youre saying that, not even close? A few people eat Ackee, not many people know it, but it grows all over the place. I think we joke a lot about almost everything. The Chieftaincy System runs alongside the Government System the one that were used to, but they both have quite a You know, even the Chieftaincy System has a significant amount of power. Gotta Love Us. It's not that we are mean, we just find humor in almost everything. But, this aggressiveness, is seen as playfulness in our culture. That you're hurt and let's be friends? Most of these responses are based on feedback there and Asia, so far. What I always tell people, we are NOT mean. As for the hurt when criticized, this one had me laughing. Its important to note, however, that Jamaicans are predominantly bilingual and also speak Jamaican Patois (also known as Jamaican Patwa or Creole), which is a combination of English and some African languages. recent deaths in st augustine, florida, did adrienne barbeau have a mastectomy, Are based on feedback there and Asia, so who can say what her actual thoughts are kept! 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