I have to read a little and then back off for awhile. Liberty has previously been heralded a "hero" by investigators for her quick-thinking actions, with cops citing the recording to be a key shred of evidence. I cannot find any source of Robert Ives, former Carroll Co prosecutor, stating anything about non-secular signatures. Press J to jump to the feed. Days after Libby and Abby were found dead, police officially named that man a person of interest in their murders. In the thread, a poster has made several Photoshop images that show how the photo of Liberty used on the Missing posters matches up with a creepy tattoo on the guy's arm. WebShe passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. I think bridge guy could be of that build - and I've never bought that he was old. He took and killed both girls, but he only wanted one of them The eyes on the tattoo are telling. This is close to an evidentiary information question and I prefer not to respond. What we know about the notorious Delphi murders as man charged with killings. Or, more likely, it was the cause of death that got them involved. He will kill again, and has probably killed before. Who knows. Theres a tin working on the case as well as FBI. Law enforcement admits the attack was not recorded. The other girl just got caught in the cross hairs. I have read that he planned to take them somewhere but they broke and ran at some point and he was furious and then killed them quickly but not the way he fantasized (taking them somewhere and keeping them alive for a while first). And I think were one piece away one piece.. R194 Ill admit, Ive never been so intrigued by true crime, but this one really got under my skin. Apparently they have stumbled upon a major pedo ring during the Delphi investigation and that has lead them to this father son team and several social media profiles. Way back the theory was - one of the girls (A?) There is no reason, it should haven taken 5 years to solve this. If they know who it is, that name would get out. If you look at the photo, there does seem to be the outline of a gun in the right pocket of the jacket and his hands are in his pockets. Maam? I doubt that they were shot to death, though, given that these trails are frequented by pedestrians/hikers fairly regularly, and are adjacent to the main town. I doubt that recording is 40 minutes, the phone would've died before the 40 minute mark. One of her other prominent TV roles was around the same time, in 1961, where she played the countess in episode 6 of the TV historical adventure series SirFrancisDrake ("The English Dragon"). The FB mods made screen grabs because they thought the guy was shady and they are sending those to investigators. They don't have a clue who the real killer is. Wow! I thought they had brought in a suspect a few months after the killings who seemed like the likely perp? HE WALKED SLOW ON THE BRIDGE!). Wasn't the sister was the last person to see them and drove them there? I worked with a barrister once who had had to view CP images. And these leakers and other insiders AFAIK any anon person claiming such status online is not to be taken seriously . that not true here? I wonder if investigators could have worked out approximate height from the video, since that would have been a good tip to look out for. Hopefully, it's him to give the family closure and he don't kill other girls. If the pos wasn't in jail I would think you were him. Sadly, this will die as a cold case. Can we link to Reddit on here? The video image of course turned black but it kept recording audio of their murders, which were evidently horrorific. A massive search ensued but ultimately ended in the discovery of the girls bodies about a half-mile from the bridge where they had begun their winter walk 24 hours earlier. Gawthrop, who later became a Common Pleas and U.S. District judge and who died in 1999, called Whitaker to the stand to rebut Garnetts testimony, which he did, saying that he had not left home that night. I've never understood why the girls didn't call 911. That and the condition of the bridge could account for the way he was walking. R192 My understanding is the Facebook page had a photo of an amateur singer as the profile photo. [quote] Recent court documents filed refer to providing defense counsel for Keegan Kline an interview between his client and . well, Chadwell is 42 and has been in and out of jail. R284, there's no mention of him being into hunting or fishing but his social media had a lot of photos of him outdoors, including one of him in a tent. There are also sketches of the possible perps face. Wonder if he's Leigh Kerr. I agree with the poster who said hes done this before. (WLS) -- There is a new All these years later, police still have not given many details about the cause of death to protect the case. They were on another phone.". They've never publicly released information as to what exactly happened to the girls, though one can only assume they were likely sexually assaulted before being killed. Did they stop recording or was it all CSI could salvage? She made her first film in 1952, and, over the next decade, she established a following in British films. The Delphi murders autopsy report remains sealed to this day, authorities say to protect the ongoing investigation. My theory is that it was catfishing through Snapchat to abuse Libby. Like someone claiming to be a 13 yr old boy online and then a man shows up?? That is an extremely rare height, isn't it? They need to come up with, or utilize, cellphone GPS-tracking by wireless carriers. That would be the only reason they might drag their feet. (1961). Never mind. Carter says a vehicle was parked at the old CPS/DCS Welfare building in Delphi on the east side of County Road 300 North, next to the Hoosier Heartland Highway between noon and 5 p.m. February 14, 2017. Yeah, on Reddit you see a lot of initials with explanation. Per the leaked texts by the uncle who found them, Liberty got the worst of it and was the one who was left naked. My impression just from the photo and his recording is that hes middle aged, has a fairly decent job, knew what he was doing and was comfortable, has pretty good taste in clothes, not a slob, people wouldnt suspect him, has a boat. Although investigators have never given the exact context to the images or audio taken from the video, they have said they were taken during suspected criminal activity.. The video shows to me a broad-shouldered guy with long skinny legs. The only way we will resolve to gain justice for Abby and Libby, for their respective families and our caring community, is to remain dedicated to the preservation of said integrity. I'll try to find an interview with Abby's mom that's pretty good. It seems pretty in-line with their murders. Im guessing Gelsons or The Abbey with her twink coke whores. The search for Libby and Abby resumed on Valentines Day morning, Feb. 14, 2017. it would have been a thrilling adventure. There is a similarity in the way they speak. I really want this guy to pay. Just two years older than Delphi, she considered him her protector in dealing with the kids in West Chester, Lawrence said. Investigators say they have worked a number of tips and leads that have come directly from that system or the tip line, although they say both have been able to connect dots they had no idea existed. By bits and pieces, they told me it was a relative that did the killing, Lawrence said in an interview earlier this month. I suspect that they do know who it is.. I still dont understand whats going on here. Jesus. I wish I could remember who said it and where I heard it, but there was an interview with someone who had worked on the case and he mentioned how badly affected people he worked with had been by what they saw at the crime scene. The Levi styled cut of his jeans and the Members Only aesthetic of the jacket suggest someone stuck in the styles of their youth. "We realized that this is a totally different type of investigation.. Because why else would anybody pretend to be CERTAIN it's not him? Very interesting. There was also an investigator who said there was physical evidence but it's "not what you think," which makes people believe it might be simply touch DNA (i.e. He mutilates the eyes . If they had anything, this guy would be caught. They were reported missing a day earlier shortly after Libby posted a final image to Snapchat of Abby, showing her traversing the tracks of the bridge trail. Someone on the Reddit thread posted an image. I grew up in the Midwest and Indiana is an awful, backward place. That inexorable redneck fuck lumbering towards the camera in his stupid fucking dad jeans..and the casual way he orders them down the hillI just feel for those girls. Every one of those tips and potential leads that are called in and emailed to the Delphi tip lines more than 40,000 so far is vetted by investigators. Get serious. God, they have to catch this piece of human garbage! Alonzo Brooks was murdered in a small town, too (Unsolved Mysteries, Volume 1). ON Reddit, they were saying that KAK (fat pedo guy) or someone who was using the catfish FB acct, used to post on the FB private forum where Libby's sister Kelsi posts (It's called: DELPHI MURDERS! They did have their phones. The bridge has slats of decayed wood. Imagine knowing the killer is in the community, could be someone you speak to everyday and they are just walking about as if nothing happened. This goes along with the theory they know who it is. He cut her eyelids so her eyes appeared "open," and then tilted her head slightly on the bed so she looked to be staring at whoever walked through her door. Therein lies the problem, r415they must not have any DNA evidence. I think that the escort who blew the whistle on the Lafayette's Men Club that shared girls and subjected them to horrible abuse + the Judge who had to resign could be part of the Delphi Murders. Investigators need to think outside of what "real drug dealers do" or "real people do" - there is no REALITY to a crime like this. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on the two girls but officials declined to disclose a cause or time of death for either girl, and refused to confirm whether DNA evidence was recovered from the scene. Q. Chadwell is such a great suspect, I bet it's him. This is the fatal flaw. For five years, no suspects had been named in the murder case of Libby German and Abby Williams, two best friends who were murdered while hiking in their hometown of Delphi, And some of the ones who still haven't been caught: r291 - the current POI looks very good for it. Before the murders, Libby had her aunt do a factory reset of her phone (Libby's phone) because it was acting up. That's it. Heres the pedos mug shot next to the mystery photo the girls took the day they were murdered. The physical similarities are pretty striking between BG and PB, that's true. I probably should have checked ALL the comments - there were a lot to get through - before posting. She trained as a concert pianist before becoming an actress, training at RADA and graduating in 1949. State police served a search warrant at a nearby property, but no arrests were made. Sadistic beyond words. Pretty sure anybody crossing that bridge wouldn't exactly be race-walking across it. Don't buy it. It is haunting. There are lots of close-ups of his jacket and I see an outline of a gun in his right pocket area. Trump supporters galore; and more than their share of criminal element. His family did not speak of the circumstances surrounding Delphis murder, and signs of her had been removed from the familys home on Chestnut Street. Most notably: "The way you left them in those woods is not IS NOT what they're experiencing today". They are still at the age/mind set of obeying adults without question, even subconsciously. That thread was very interesting. Leigh Kerrs new postings are contradictory to me - religious yet sexual tableau.. He does say, in the 2020 HLN podcast, that signatures are there. Leigh is both a male and female name, so no, hes not posing as a woman. Thats good I think. Both families maintain that Abby and Libby weren't catfished. It appears to be nothing but fantasy and speculation r398, nothing more. I think the face on that tattoo is exactly what her poor face looked like when he left her there for LE. What is the Delphi sheriff referring to? r257 Here's a decent summary on the case. They're desperate to move this case forward but the truth is they've got nothing. Discover Delphi Lawrence's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. Social media, although not new does impede our investigation. "The sketch isnt a photograph. Weight ages you. In a news release, the Indiana State Police said the creator of the profile used their contrived opulence while communicating with underage girls to "solicit nude images, obtain their addresses, and attempt to meet them.". I hope he is the one who did this. I never thought this guy did it because the body just didnt match. R7 Please elaborate! Hell, there have been cases solved after 40 or 50 years..so why not 4 years? Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. If you google him he definitely fits for Bridge Guy. This case must have really given hope to psychopaths out there. He did not take answers during or after the press conference, however his remarks at the time seemed to indicate that cops believed they were close to zeroing in on the suspect. R62- Do you think he was "speaking code" to the killer? On Reddit they speculate its Abby, but i thought she was supposed to have been laying down. But it's his "type," the type he kills. The texts from the guy who found the girls say they were not posed. The music was so loud it overpower the interviews and narratives. Who the hell would walk that bridge, much less allow kids to walk on it alone? One thing that has always stayed with me (either by reading Libby's grandmother's account of it or hearing Libby say it on a social media video) is that Libby was upset that her phone had to be reset to the factory settings and she lost photos stored in her phone. Specific Reason for Tip (i.e. He could know the area and not be from there. If true, they'd be calling out to him on the bridge. Seems old enough. He was caught while abducting and trying to kill a young girl (same MO). They have to be extremely careful not give the killer's defence ANY reason to make the jury doubt he did it. Another theory is first sketch (old guy) was taken from witnesses and the video. Q. I will listen to the True Crime Garage podcast. Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]. Both sketches show a thin lipped man. He looks like every average white guy between 25-50 who lives in the Midwest. I thought the killer was from their small town, and, for some reason, the locals were shielding him. R414, you dont think that the police are keeping the family informed? Im thinking he worked for it or drive a truck which made pick ups or drops off for it. If Cheyenne did indeed call 911, the tape should be released. ^. It was the last time the girls were seen alive, and the recordings German collected on her phone including a chilling recording of the mans voice remains almost the only evidence ever released to the public in whats become known as the Delphi murders. R45 I think they crossed at a shallow point? Nothing out there is accurate, which only leads to more false tips.. After this look at the latest updates on the Delphi murders, read about six grisly cases that remain unsolved and the chilling story of Myra Hindley and the Moors murders. That tattoo alone should convict his sick ass, imo. Nope. The glamorous blonde star shot to fame in 1982 when she starred in Lloyd Webber's hit musical Evita, taking over from Elaine Page. LOL! Don't have a link, sorry, but a story at the Daily Mail today says he's been beaten up by the other inmates at the prison he's in. The main suspect/killer is probably well-connected, like a local politician's son. You will lose all power. It makes a person nauseous to read it. The guy in the video is way older. And the tattoo predates the murders, but it makes me think he'd stalked Libby. But I waiver between about 6 different POIs. Can anyone summarize? It is not him. She passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. Im assuming the killer found out she had it and tried to destroy it and it was found in the water? Also, this trail has spotty cell tower reception. And what if the BG was wearing some kind of disguise? R476 There is a 29 yr old prosecutor (or maybe it was the investigator) that brought forth the fat pedo porn guy's case. Could have happened in a lot of places unless you're watching your kids 24/7 (unrealistic, and this is still a very rare thing to happen). Provided Photo One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. I thought they got the guy - he is in jail currently but was free when those poor kids were done in. The Delphi killings remain a uniquely disturbing case that refuses to leave the publics consciousness. I cant wait for this guy to get caught. Years active. I don't SEE any similarities b/t Chadwell and the suspect. The vague talk and all the initials instead of full names doesn't help most of us who clicked on that link. environs. height, weight, hair color, eye color), Specific Vehicle Descriptions (i.e. The case of Abby and Libbys horrific double-murder remains cold, with tips continuing to roll in, but at least a year since the last Delphi murders update. We all are speculating because we know nothing except what has been released to the public, which is strangely very little. Also, it looks as if he is carrying weapons, or a possible "kill kit". He had been planning to take them somewhere to abuse sexually and torture over a day or more. There are about 6 guys who internet sleuths have considered as suspects who look like the police sketch. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they were the same car and someone changed the plates during the day. This speaks to an evidentiary aspect of the investigation and I would respectfully prefer not to answer. R18 I have heard that there is 7 minutes and also 40 minutes. A second sketch was released at the press conference held on April 22, 2019. One man was part of a search party and claims to have seen the bodies. People watch the news and think they are picking up on things, but its false. For more than two years. She died 12 years later, in 2002, aged 70, from undisclosed causes. It sways back and forth and its not something you can just jump on and walk straight across if youve never done it before. It could be DNA from one of Chadwell's dogs. Does anyone have a link to the image, I've searched but not been able to find it. I don't think enforcers usually kill children. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. A FB member of the group made the connection about a year ago and sent screen grabs to the Delphi Murders investigators. The cops need to release more of the recording, unedited. R96 I thought the SAME thing and then felt guilty for it! Same build, coloring, age of victims. None of the other people of interest turned out to be a suspect. I haven't followed this case extremely closely but now I do wonder if the police know it's this guy. Say, "Drag me". The reason I ask is that the murderer may have been interrupted before he could sexually assault them? And then returned for whatever reason to murder. Does anyone else remember this?? Within the last week Ive looked at new Reddit subs, historic Reddit/Websleuths places, and then gone down old rabbit holes and new ones. Nope. This case has really bothered me that someone got away with doing this. Later in Part II, they show video footage of a press conference held with the sheriff positioned behind the officer leading the conference. It could be a stun gun? I was just trying to state that the FBI don't always get involved in these situations. He looked away during poignant moments and gulped at one point. Not even close. 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